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[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to the Soul Growth Build and Public Podcast. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Stacy Gonzalez, one of the co-founders of our Build Public podcast. And for the first time tonight, I'm here with my co-founder, Renee Devore. Say hello, Renee. Hello everyone. So tonight we are going to talk about the highs and the lows of being founders of a startup. And I'm gonna share my high of today and my low. And then I'm gonna pass this over to Renee for her to share what was her high and her low. And I think for me, the high today was, um, for the past two days, Renee has been coming to my home work. We live very close in proximity to each other. And before I even like totally get into that, let me back up for a second. And thank you and welcome you to the podcast. I was so excited about the day that I forgot to welcome my listeners. So thank you for being here today. But back to what I was sharing, Renee and I live very close to each other, and the best part of that is we get to work together in person. And while that is lovely and amazing, sometimes it's also difficult and causes me to be face-to-face with some of the difficulties of the work that we are standing up right now. And so today we were working on building out some backwards. Some curriculum, uh, for some work that we're doing. And it just was really challenging. And while Renee and I were working, I could feel on the inside how I was starting to get a little stressed out about it. And I wanted to be very open. I was hoping that I could listen to what she was having to say. Kind of take her ideas, put 'em into structure, help us. To an end outcome and through the course of trying to figure out how to engage with one another around this work, we just had this moment where, what did you say to me when I said, I'm done now. What did I say? How did that happen? You [00:02:18] Renee: just said, I'm done. And I was like, well, that didn't [00:02:20] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: feel good. Yeah. I said, I'm done. And she said, well, that didn't feel good. And then what happened? Do you remember? [00:02:30] Renee: No. And then you kind of went on and just like we were trying to navigate each other where we were in that particular timeframe. Um, and then you got emotional. [00:02:40] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: I did get emotional. It was a really hard conversation and I think the hardest part was I was feeling very, we're gonna get off up here. I was feeling super, like I was trying so hard to be flexible and I. Really wanting to allow your creativity to shine through. I wanted to be really open and I wanted to be really, um, like available to what your thoughts were. And so I was trying really hard to like push aside what I was thinking and hone into what you were thinking. And, and then it just, I, I think I got overwhelmed at some point, [00:03:28] Renee: but I also. Because you were not coming as you are. Like you were, you were showing up differently in order to serve me. Mm. Which I think that there's benefits to that, but I think it was almost like over overkill to the point where it, it confused things you were working like over time. Yeah. To try and navigate the project that we were working on and also, uh, you know, connect to whatever my needs were, how I operated and. I think that that's part of how the, the overwhelm piece of this all came [00:04:03] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: to be. Yeah. And so what I realized when we kind of had this moment where Renee was like, yeah, that didn't feel great the way you just said that. Like, I, cuz I was like, I'm done now and [00:04:20] Renee: we can laugh at it now. We can. We weren't laughing at it. We weren't laughing five hours ago. [00:04:25] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Um, I think what it really made me realize was that I, I can have a voice in the process as well, and I can, um, also set boundaries. Around Here's how I'm thinking something should look or feel. Um, and I think I just wasn't doing that today. Mm-hmm. greatly. Mm-hmm. . [00:04:51] Renee: Well, I think the, the other thing that also, uh, showed up today was this fear that you, you, yeah. Abandonment. Fear. Yeah. The fear that you carry forward into this relationship of thinking that it could end at any time, and then if you take the wrong step or do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing. I'm gonna leave this partnership and I think that that was, um, a really important breakthrough for both of us today. For me to hear that and then you giving me examples of like, when I say in 10 years I wanna be retired and living in Mexico, . You thinking that that means I'm just, you're breaking up with me today. Break up with you 10. From now today. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and that just isn't the case. I think we both have been through, like me getting into my first, uh, you know, engagement at the age of 47. Like I worked really hard to get to that place, to be in this healthy, nurturing, loving, uh, relationship with my partner. And you've done the same with your Tim, you know, coming around Yeah. In your second marriage to him. . Um, which I think is important also, but we've had to work really hard to get there. Mm-hmm. . Um, and that should serve us in this relationship too. So we should learn what we've gained in creating those relationships with our partners, you know, uh, and how that connects with us here in our business partnership. [00:06:22] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: And so for tonight's soul Growth Building Public journey, we [00:06:28] Renee: are inviting you [00:06:29] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: to explore. , what do you need as you think about your own partnerships, relationships, uh, what do you need for yourself when it comes to being fulfilled in business and the work that you're doing? Because even when it's hard, I feel like for us, Even when it's hard, like today was kind of hard on some levels. It was also really rewarding. It was also really fulfilling to know that we can have conflict, we can have challenge, but that does not mean we have to stay there. We can, we can work through it. And that was kind of the big takeaway for me today. And we were [00:07:10] Renee: able to show up. We had another meeting. This, yeah, we did this evening, like we ended our, like that meeting she's talking about at. This afternoon and we had another engagement at five o'clock that we had to, we had to come ready to, yeah, to be a part of and to not be able to like carry that baggage from that conversation, that emotion that we, we had and that conversation and carry that forward and be able to leave that behind, I think is super powerful, um, as well. [00:07:42] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: So thank you for joining. Building public journey. If you are following us and you're listening to this um, podcast, we appreciate you and we invite you to join with us on your own soul growth journey.